my 1/4 time good or bad???

HKSpoweredS13 · **my 1/4 time good or bad??? -** 12-12-03, 07:07 AM

hey there,
im expecting to get flamed for this post b/c im sure you all have went over this over and over but i did a little share of searching, and didnt find anything. well i have a 87 gt 5 speed BONE stock with the exception of underdrive pulleys,chip,k&n air filter. well i ran a 14.5@95 with a 2.3 60ft....i know the 60ft is horrible but didnt wanna do any launching on my half shot tranny. btw t-5's suck at life. lol well if any of you have had the same setup at one certain time and have ran if you wouldnt mind posting up some times for me. and if not let me know if i suck at driving lol or i did pretty good etc etc.. thank you and i look forward to chatting with you guys.
-Dawson

**blown5.0** · 12-12-03, 11:32 AM

thats seems like a normal time too me for a stock stang. if you drop in a set of 3.73's or similar it'll run 14.00's, put some slicks on it and 13.7's would be easy.

25thmustang · 12-12-03, 11:50 AM

Time looks very good, but why hate on T5s. I know too many people including me and my dad running with the stock T5 without any issues. My dad runs low 12s with his, and had just replaced the factory clutch at 75,000 miles, and it was also perfect. We both powershift them and have not had one issue (except when mine was low on fluid, it has issues with 2nd on a few powershifts).

Good times though!

Carney Woods · 12-16-03, 08:50 PM

Times look about right on, I was running 14.3's stock at 98 ish ( I have an LX notch- Lighter) as far as the T-5's go I have only good things to say so far and i power shift it as hard as I can. mind you I'm still on street tires

**RyanSG** · 12-17-03, 08:43 PM

Do the short throw shifters really make a big difference in the shifting charicteristics over the stock shift? Or not really a big difference.

**blown5.0** · 12-18-03, 05:33 AM

the biggest improvement is the lose of the rubbery bushings for solid ones, giving it a precise movement, the next is the adjustable stops that help to prevent internal shift fork breakage when you slaming gears, then theres the visual looks of it. but yes they do help a bunch.

**maverick0716** · 12-21-03, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blown5.0

the biggest improvement is the lose of the rubbery bushings for solid ones, giving it a precise movement, the next is the adjustable stops that help to prevent internal shift fork breakage when you slaming gears, then theres the visual looks of it. but yes they do help a bunch.

Don't forget one of the most important things that you can't get unless you get an aftermarket shifter......the springs. The Pro 5.0 and Steeda Tri-Ax for example have such strong springs that keep in the 3rd/4th gates that its practically impossible to miss gears with it. The stock one you're pretty much shifting blindly, feeling for the gates.

decoy562 · 12-26-03, 10:05 AM

Sounds good, especially for a 16 year old car!

**cleanLX** · 12-26-03, 03:27 PM

The 14.5 is pretty good for a vehicle that is over 16 years old.
Lets see if any of these Neons and Subaru's (not even gonna touch all the *** crap) are still running 96mph when they are 16 years old... hahaha... nevermind, todays disposable cars will be long junk'd before they ever see thier 16th birthday.

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Originally Posted by blown5.0

the biggest improvement is the lose of the rubbery bushings for solid ones, giving it a precise movement, the next is the adjustable stops that help to prevent internal shift fork breakage when you slaming gears, then theres the visual looks of it. but yes they do help a bunch.

Let's not forget the raised fulcrum point on aftermarket shifters that cut the thro down over 30%.

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Originally Posted by maverick0716

Don't forget one of the most important things that you can't get unless you get an aftermarket shifter......the springs. The Pro 5.0 and Steeda Tri-Ax for example have such strong springs that keep in the 3rd/4th gates that its practically impossible to miss gears with it. The stock one you're pretty much shifting blindly, feeling for the gates.

Don't forget Hurst, who were in production of shifters for these trannies years before any of the companies named even existed on paper... and ship with weaker springs for those wanting the feel without the effort.

**kurst** · 12-26-03, 11:17 PM

cut your 60' down to 2.0(possible on street tires) and you'll be running high high 13's.

95mph isnt bad for your car.

-86GTStang · 12-28-03, 04:36 PM

I was running mid to high 14s with my stock -86, with 235/60-15 Drag R.and starts from 1000rpm (2.73 ring gearing),and a 2.1-2.25 60ft time. Changed the ring g. to 3.73 and launched at 3000rpm with 15psi inside my tires, and afther a nice burnout, the car is now going steady 1.93-60ft, 9.1-1/8,14.31-1/4. (fully weight) Ps! I still have my stock 200horsepower engine...but a T-5 from -95,with 2.95 first gear r.

**maverick0716** · 05:43 PM

HKSpoweredS13 - That seems like a damn good time considering the 60 foot you got. With a 2.0 60 ft. you could be in the high 13's.....but what I don't get is the mph, I don't think I've ever seen a mustang in the 13's with only 95 mph, which makes me think you're losing power on the top end......what rpm are you shifting at?

**AXIStang** · 12-29-03, 01:08 AM

thats like me trapping 12.90s at only 100mph at 3 psi. i dont get it

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HKSpoweredS13 · 12-29-03, 04:12 PM

im shifting at 6k.i finish at almost redline in 3rd. definately in need of 3.73's.

HKSpoweredS13 · 12-29-03, 04:15 PM

i dont launch at all i roll out of the box completely.

HKSpoweredS13 · 12-29-03, 04:31 PM

also i didnt run 13's i ran 14.5@95 not 13's@95 just to clear things up. also AXISstang yeah umm this is complete BS, because that would make sense coming
on here claiming to run a 14 second run and it be bull****, if i was going to come and on here and say i ran a make believe time it wouldnt be a 14 second anything.

-86GTStang · 04:53 PM

Your E.T and speed seems to bee just ok.. Talked with some friends today,one with a 140K Miles car,-87GT, 5-speed,stock engine,street tires(225/60-15)2.73;1 and he rolled out at idle,at 14.4-14.6sec./93-95Mph.(8runs,same day)Good weather cond.

**maverick0716** · 12-29-03, 07:17 PM

If you're running 2.73 or 3.08 gears in your car then your tach is way off if you're running near redline in 3rd at only 95 mph. My car traps in 3rd at 5600 rpm at 98 mph.....I have 3.27 gears. Also, the reason I said you'd be running 13's at 95 mph is because your mph doesn't usually change even though you can improve your 60 foot time by a great deal. I'm not calling bull**** on you, I just think you can get a better mph out of it. I think you're shifting way too high for a stock engine. Max power for a stock engine is at around 4500-5000 rpm. You should be shifting at around 5200-5500 rpm.

86GTStang - Now go and ask them what their 60 foot times were....most likely not a ****ty 2.3

-86GTStang · 12-30-03, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by maverick0716

86GTStang - Now go and ask them what their 60 foot times were....most likely not a ****ty 2.3

....forgot to tellU about the 60ft..., between 2.1 -2.15. (16psi tire pressure, Interceptor M+S tires,dry burn out/5sec.)

burycm · 12-31-03, 12:18 PM

I would not reccomend running a T-5 if you are serious about taking the car to the track, or just drive it hard on the street. I just broke my T-5 and am not too thrilled about it, but I would definately reccomend going with a Tremec 3550 or a TKO if you are really serious. I also know of some people that have broken the T-5 HD's with a few powershifts running a best ET of 12.88.
The bottom line is that if you are going to be driving the car hard, especially something making a lot, or oven a lttile more than stock, of power then the trans is going to break. The best manual to get as far as I know is the Tremec TKO, they will hold up much longer than any T-5 or form of one. They are relatively inexpensive, and can withstand a LOT of abuse.
Just my two cents.

**maverick0716** · 12-31-03, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by burycm

I would not reccomend running a T-5 if you are serious about taking the car to the track, or just drive it hard on the street. I just broke my T-5 and am not too thrilled about it, but I would definately reccomend going with a Tremec 3550 or a TKO if you are really serious. I also know of some people that have broken the T-5 HD's with a few powershifts running a best ET of 12.88.
The bottom line is that if you are going to be driving the car hard, especially something making a lot, or oven a lttile more than stock, of power then the trans is going to break. The best manual to get as far as I know is the Tremec TKO, they will hold up much longer than any T-5 or form of one. They are relatively inexpensive, and can withstand a LOT of abuse.
Just my two cents.

Ever heard of a G-Force T-5? They can make them hold up to 600+ hp.